Sippin' whiskey in the morning, searching for Taco Cabanas, and slangin' since 81' with one of Houston's finest, Mattress Mack. Join us for another mashup of outtakes, hijinks, and other shenanigans.
Sippin' whiskey in the morning, searching for Taco Cabanas, and slangin' since 81' with one of Houston's finest, Mattress Mack. Join us for another mashup of outtakes, hijinks, and other shenanigans.
In this episode, we take you behind the scenes for a collection of audio clips that didn't make it into episodes 21–29. Mostly, these clips are a little too off-topic to include in regular conversations, so we're featuring them in this episode to celebrate one full year of the podcast. In addition to whiskey, Taylor likes to store his energy drinks in plastic bags and drink them warm and mentions how much he loves the game Dead Cells. We spend too much time talking about Taco Cabana and the "Cruncharito Supreme" and try to figure out what residents of Michigan call themselves. Willie and Taylor introduce Joseph to Mattress Mack, and then we circle back to talk about people getting stabbed in the Taco Cabana drive-thru. Anyway, "Doooon't gooooo chaaaasing waterballs."
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[bleep]
[Alienated by ELFL plays in background]
Joseph: Willie, that Mattress Mack, that was the guy right?
Willie: Yeah, yeah that was the guy.
Joseph: That had the shirt?
Willie: Mm-hmm.
Taylor: Mattress Mack. Wait, what happened?
Joseph: That shit was fucking pretty genius, dude.
Willie: That shit was ridiculous.
Joseph: I don't know how he delivered it so well.
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: I don't know.
Joseph: He must have some fucking hood in him to like deliver it that well.
Willie: He sent me an Instagram video of Mattress Mack wearing a fucking ridiculous jacket going on about a sale.
Taylor: Dude, Mattress Mack is not afraid to look just like Tupac. Like, he will straight up, before he leaves the house, he will be looking at a framed image of Tupac and he will be making sure that he looks exactly like it. Like, reverse fucking bandana tied in the front.
[Willie chuckles]
Like, and he'll pull it off. He's just a fucking G. It's like, I guess-
Joseph: Oh, so this is the thing he's done before.
Taylor: Oh yeah. Well, he's like, uh, he's an icon in Houston and, and he's, uh, it depends on who you ask. A lot of people will be like, oh yeah, he's insanely like philanthropic and, and helps out a ton of stuff. And he has financially, but then if you ask another person, they'll be like, that dude's a crackhead.
[Joseph laughing]
Taylor: All are actually accurate.
[Taylor laughs]
Joseph: [laughing] Yeah, yeah.
Taylor: Like, you're not...
Willie: Yeah.
[Taylor laughs]
Willie: It's all of the above for sure.
Taylor: Yeah, yeah.
Willie: He has done a lot for Houston, to give a lot of money away and a lot of fucking mattresses and shit.
Joseph: And he's just balling or what, like?
Taylor: Mm-hmm.
Willie: Been doing well since, you know, you heard him, he's been doing that since fucking [Joseph laughs] 81. [chuckles]
Joseph: Been slangin' mattresses since '81, dog.
Taylor: Dude's like a multi multi multi millionaire. Yeah.
Joseph: No shit, man.
[Alienated by ELFL fades out]
[Intro theme plays - Tiger Tracks by Lexica]
00:01:41
Joseph: What is up? Welcome to Berries and Blades. Thanks for tuning in for a casual conversation about video games. My name is Joseph and I'm here with my friends, Willie and Taylor, and we're just three guys trying to agree on what NG+2 [said NG Plus Two] actually means, but I digress. So what's up?
Taylor: Not a lot, NG+2 I think is gonna be never gamed-
Joseph: Never gamed plus 2 million.
Taylor: -plus two. Never gamed. Yeah, that's uh, that's my guess on it. Um, I have been NG plus three ing in the [Joseph chuckles] in the new Final Fantasy VII Rebirth.
Joseph: Did you get through it?
Taylor: No, I'm maybe thirty hours into it though.
Joseph: Hmm.
Taylor: I'm going pretty hard on it. Maybe 40 after I left it on all night last night, so...
[all laughing]
Joseph: I have no idea how long the game is meant to be or take. 50 hour game or something?
Taylor: I think they're shooting for that kind of. Yeah, I think they're shooting for like 50 to 70 hours on those, but it's freaking beautiful. It is a gorgeous game. They did a really good job, got a lot of good reviews, and now I see why after I played a good bit of it.
Joseph: Yeah, Taylor, what's your interpretation of what New Game+2 [said New Game Plus Two] is?
Taylor: For real, as in the realistic...?.
Joseph: Yeah, yeah. Like, what does New Game+2 [said New Game Plust Two] mean?
Willie: How many plays have you played of the game?
Taylor: Okay. All right. So-
Willie: How many times have you played through?
Taylor: -So I play one and then I play New Game+[said New Game Plus]. And then New Game++[said New Game Plus Plus], so that's the third play through I believe.
Joseph: So you're saying New Game+2 [said New Game Plust 2] is the same thing as New Game ++ [said New Game Plus Plus], right?
Taylor: Yes.
Joseph: That's exactly how I interpret it. Willie, do you think something different?
Willie: No, that's what I think.
Joseph: Okay. I think that's what it is. That's it, the end.
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: Wow.
Joseph: We did it.
Taylor: We really crushed that. Man.
Willie: Well see, the thing is, I think that, uh, that's not how you described it the last time we talked, Joey-
Joseph: Oh, don't put this shit on me, dude. You were the one confused.
Willie: -over Christmas break.
Joseph: What do you think you remember me saying?
Willie: No, I think other people are very confused.
Joseph: Oh, okay.
Willie: Other people think that, uh, that New Game+2 [said New Game Plus 2] would actually be like-
Joseph: After New Game Plus Plus?
Willie: -like the fourth playthrough or some shit. Yeah. I don't even know. I can't even wrap my head around it because people say some ridiculous shit about it.
Joseph: Yeah, so you go through the first time, that's the first playthrough. You go through a second time, that's New Game+ [said New Game Plus]. You go through a third time, I'd call that New Game+2 [said New Game Plus Two].
Willie: Yeah, and some people are ridiculous and say New Game+1 [said New Game Plus One].
Joseph: Nah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's fucked.
Willie: Then it's all off.
Taylor: That would be if you just started a new game, I think. [laughs]
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: Not just a New Game+ [New Game Plus].
Willie: I'm glad that we just agree on this and we don't have to argue about it because that other position is a ridiculous position to hold.
Taylor: It really is.
Joseph: This seems the most natural, organic way of thinking about it for me. And also how I always have. Like back when I first learned what a New Game+ even was, that's how I've always counted it but anyway, today is our 30th episode, which means it's time for another round of behind the scenes Outtakes and Hijinks. This is our third time doing this and we've been putting together one of these collections every 10 episodes, so go check out the other two if you find this one interesting.
Most of the clips are coming from off air moments that happened before and after recording each full episode and the clips were either completely unrelated to gaming or just too ridiculous to keep in the episode, but circling back around for a second today also marks, actually over the weekend, marks one full year of this podcast.
Taylor: Woo, that's amazing.
Joseph: So thanks to all of you for being here and we really appreciate every time you listen to us. Also, we hope you enjoy this collection of Outtakes and Hijinks and we'll see you again soon.
Taylor: Welcome to Hijinks and Other Stinks.
[bouncy 8-bit music plays]
00:05:29
Joseph: Signal. Signal.
Taylor: Signal, signal, signal.
[singing to the melody of Thriller] Just a signal, a signal if you know it's just a better, better signal, than you
Joseph: Wait. What was that? What was that in the rhythm of? Michael Jackson?
Taylor: Yeah. Yeah. [Joseph whistling]
Just a signal-
Joseph: [to the melody of Thriller] It's the signal. Signal. [continues hummng the melody of thriller]
Taylor: [continues singing to the melody of Thriller]-think I hear the A. C. in the background. Background. Background.
Joseph: Nice. Get them syllables correct.
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: All right. [clears throat] This prompt is about chores as a kid. So if you want to think about any chores you had to do as a kid, we'll highlight those.
Taylor: Okay.
Joseph: This is a super, super fuckin last minute idea that I just wrote after we jumped on the call.
Taylor: All good.
Joseph: But for some reason, earlier I thought about pointless chores I had to do as a kid.
Taylor: Mm hmm.
Joseph: Hopefully you didn't. [clears throat]. All right. You ready, Taylor?
Taylor: Yep.
Joseph: Don't act like you've been ready.
Taylor: I was borns ready.
Joseph: Okay, here we go. [bleep]
Taylor: Damn, I should've probably made some coffee, but I've already had two cups today, so...
Joseph: Yeah, dude, you sounded tired as fuck. About to ruin this episode.
Taylor: Yeah, I know, man. I'm like-
Joseph: Sleeping on the job.
Taylor: -Fucking tired.
Joseph: Fucking look tired. You look like you're a billion years old.
Taylor: Yep. And I'm only a million. It's crazy. [Jospeh laughs] Fucking barely a million.
Joseph: Fucking dork.
Taylor: [in a raspy voice] Uh.
Joseph: [in a raspy voice] I'm so old!
Taylor: [in a raspy voice] What's going on?
Joseph: [in a raspy voice] Lies of P.
Taylor: Lies of P, and I'm coming at you.
Joseph: Damn Geppetto.
Taylor: [in a raspy voice] Heh.
Joseph: Geppetti?
Taylor: [in a raspy voice] Geppetto, don't touch me, you pedo. [Joseph laughing] Now why is his name not G-pedo?
Joseph: G-ped-o.
Taylor: His name should absolutely be G-Pedo. [Joseph and Willie laughing] Be what they call him.
Joseph: Oh gosh, never thought of that.
Taylor: Don't touch me, G-Pedo.
[Joseph and Willie laughing]
Joseph: That after the whole, "you're a good boy. "
Taylor: Yeah, you're such a good boy.
Joseph: Good P.
Taylor: Please come back to me, good boy, so that I may pet you, [Joseph chuckling] good boy.
Joseph: You're a real good P.
Taylor: Yeah, your P organ is so thick. [Joseph and Willie laugh] You're a good boy. Wait, what?
[Joseph and Willie laughing]
What the hell?
Willie: I think that was it. I think-
[Taylor chuckles]
Joseph: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [laughs]
[laughing]
Taylor: That was where it...that was the line and that was where it ended
Joseph: Yeah, dude. Dude. [bleep]
Taylor: Nah, I do need to get something though. I better, cause I was drinking that, uh, coffee. Trying to wake up.
Joseph: Well, go grab something, man.
Taylor: Yeah, let me go get something real quick. Hang tight.
Joseph: Yeah, let me go get something real quick. Soft ass. [Joseph and Jack chuckle, then laugh]Soft ass voice.
Taylor: Don't be telling these boys how soft my ass is. It's between us.
[bleep]
Carlo, my young boy. [bleep]
Willie: What is 1877?
Joseph: That's whiskey dog.
Willie: Is that an alcoholic drink?
Taylor: Nah, it's water. It's just the HEB water. Just like they did it back in 1877 with mango.
Joseph: Is it, is there really? [Jack, Joseph, Taylor, and Willie laugh] There's a water called 1877?
Taylor: Yeah. Yeah.
Joseph: Really?
Taylor: Dude, there's all kinds of years. There's a whiskey here called, like, that's a, I don't know if that's everywhere, but I definitely find it to be like a lazy ass Texas thing. Like I'm calling it a date. 1893.
Willie: So it's apparently from when that well was first tapped.
Taylor: Of course it is.
Jack: Hmm.
Joseph: Mm. Okay, okay.
Taylor: Of course it is. Everybody's got some claim to like 18 something or 19 something. Can't think of any off the top of my head, but.
Willie: It's pulled from the same well and carbonated as high as the bottle will allow for maximum effervescence.
Taylor: Damn.
Jack: Do you taste that? Are you just tasting the maximum...?
Taylor: I do! [Willie chuckles] Now that he reads it to me [Jack chuckles] and I know about it, yeah![Joseph and Taylor laugh]
Jack: Now I'm wondering if like, New England has something-
Taylor: Hmm.
Willie: Enjoy the refreshing, bubbly taste.
Taylor: Mmm. [smacks lips]Yeah, and that mango, [Jack chuckles] it definitely grazed a mango's ass before it got into this bottle.
Joseph: Carlo, your mango.
Taylor: Carlo, bring me back your mango. Good boy.
[Joseph, Jack, and Willie laughing]
Joseph: Good boy, Carlo.
Jack: Uh.
Taylor: Be my good boy. Don't leave me.
Jack: I was told we talk about video games here. [Jack and Joseph laughing]
Taylor: [laughing] No...oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, [Willie laughing] this is uh, we're....
Joseph: Most of the time.
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: Most of the time.
[Jack laughs]
Taylor: Yeah.
[bleep]
00:09:58
Joseph: Carlo, finish it.
Jack: I was kind of disappointed there were no friendships.
[Taylor laughing]
Jack: I [Joseph laughs] would've liked a friendship. [Taylor laughs]
Joseph: Oh right, right.
Jack: If there was ever an era for friendships.
Taylor: Oh yeah, those were cute.
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: Yeah, bring back the friendships. Those were amazing.
Joseph: Dude, babe, Babalities. Babality.
Jack: I never understood [Willie laughs] that.
Taylor: The Babalities. Those were...yeah.
The Baby alities.
Jack: That was a cocaine decision. [laughs]
Taylor: Yeah.
[Jack, Joseph, Taylor, and Willie laughing]
Taylor: That was. Somebody lost a bet-
Joseph: Friendship.
Taylor: -or some shit.
Joseph: Friendship! [bleep]
Taylor: [whispering] Whiskey in the morning.
Joseph: Are you really, are you really having Jack and Coke?
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: Is it Jack or something else?
Taylor: No, it's a Jim. Good cl...
Joseph: Damn, dude.
Taylor: Good call though. That was close.
Joseph: Jim. Wow. I haven't had that in fucking decades.
Taylor: Yeah, dude, you probably haven't been broke enough to have to fucking have that in decades.
Joseph: Yeah. I mean, you could be drinking like R and R or something.
Taylor: That's true.
Willie: That was gonna be my next question, is that like the plain label or is it something else?
Taylor: Yeah, it's a plain label. And, um, but I also get Buffalo Trace, but I, I, um, I use that more sparingly.
Joseph: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taylor: Like that's my whiskey on the rocks. That shit's amazing.
Joseph: Yeah. That's not cheap.
Taylor: Mm. It's not, but it's also not bad. Like I think 35 bucks for the big, for like the larger bottle, the handle or whatever.
Joseph: Oh, really?
Taylor: Yeah. It's, it's definitely cheap. Like when you compare it to Johnny Walker or some shit like that, but it still is uh, totally comparable.
Joseph: Mm hmm. Damn, what you sipping on... what you sipping on whiskey for so early?
Taylor: I am starting off the days with a little bit of painkiller because my hand is all fucked up. I don't know if it's a, if it's a bone bruise or what the fuck it is but I helped my mom with some breaking down her estate sale like a month ago, at least. Probably a month or maybe a little more and, um, you got to break down these shelves and so you can like pop them, you know, underneath to like break them away from the other shelves, and I guess I did that shit too hard or something and it just, just like wrecked this part of my hand, like where the thumb meets the-
Joseph: Mm-hmm.
Taylor: -so like on the top of the thumb, it's fucking awful. And now every time... it hurts when I pick up the kid, like all, anything that requires, like-
Joseph: Weight.
Taylor: Yeah, it fucking sucks so...
Joseph: Damn dude. Yeah, are you talking about like those garage style shelves that like-
Taylor: Yeah, exactly. That like have poles on, on the outer-
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: Yeah, man.
Joseph: Yeah, those get real fucking snug.
Taylor: Yeah. I won't be making that mistake again. I... about halfway through, I was like, wow, I should have brought... cause I have like the wrist guards-
Joseph: Fucking rubber mallet, dude.
Taylor: Yeah, that's, that's what they use exactly, is a rubber mallet. But yeah, I don't do shit the smart way.
Joseph: Damn that sucks.
Taylor: It does.
Joseph: Has it gotten better? Has it at least gotten better?
Taylor: No, no, it hasn't.
Joseph: Damn.
Taylor: That's why I'm trying to just go really easy on it.
Joseph: Mm-hmm.
Taylor: You know, I'm not going to be able to stop picking up the kid, but.... just stop doing extra shit with it.
[bleep]
So I didn't, I didn't get a chance to watch, um-
Joseph: You piece of shit.
Taylor: -The Game Awards. I mean, I've, I've watched little pieces of it here and there, but I guess for this one, we're just kind of talking about our favorites.
[bleep]
I can't believe Lies of P didn't get, at least in Best Music. That shit's got amazing music.
Willie: That'll be one of the things that we talk about.
Joseph: Mm.
Willie: I feel like that's the biggest travesty of all of it-
Taylor: Yeah.
Willie: -is that they weren't even nominated for music.
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: That's crazy.
Willie: That's just fucking silly.
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: It really is.
Joseph: Best RPG, Art direction.
Willie: Especially when I think Final Fantasy won that one.
Joseph: Mm-hmm.
Taylor: Yeah. Well, and all the, pfft. All the fucking things in there are the same shit in everything else. Alan Wake 2, Baldur's Gate 3-
Joseph: Mm-hmm.
Taylor: -Legend of Zelda, like. Okay. Legend of Zelda, did they really fucking knock that out of the park and change their music, or was it still
[humming The Legend of Zelda Main Theme] like the same fucking music they've always had and was...eh.
Joseph: Fucking nerd. [unintelligible]... your fucking mouth.
Taylor: Fucking nerds. Hate em.
Joseph: Bitch, the music's always fantastic.
Taylor: I know, but it's always the same fuckin music.
Joseph: That's cause you haven't played a Legend of Zelda game in the last fuckin decade.
Taylor: No, I played Legend of-
Joseph: Shithead.
Taylor: -uh, Link, Link's Great Adventure or whatever on the Switch. I played that one.
Joseph: The Legend of Link's Great Adventure.
Taylor: Yeah, that one. And it sucked.
[Joseph laughing] [Taylor chuckles]
Joseph: Now, yeah, the music's great, man. Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. Fuckin smashing.
Taylor: Yeah, it's always...I mean, Nintendo, that's a, that's a thing with Nintendo. They don't fuck around and let you put up some bad music.
Joseph: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taylor: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [bleep]
Willie: So you know what? Maybe they, no. I definitely got this as soon as it came out, and I don't want to get into this in the podcast, so I'm going to say it now. But that game, Dave the Diver-
Taylor: Right.
Willie: -had some controversy around whether or not it should-
Taylor: Right.
Willie: -be an independent game, right?
Taylor: Yeah, it's like owned by-
Joseph: Really?
Taylor: -a gigantic fucking developer.
Joseph: Ah, I didn't know that.
Willie: It's a small team, published by a larger, a larger publisher.
Joseph: I thought that was the whole fucking point of independent games is that it doesn't go through the, like, fucking publishing pipeline.
Taylor: Right. Yeah, that's the, that's the argument right there is that they, they had crazy amounts of backing and support and all that versus the small teams who didn't have any of that, like had to fucking...
Willie: Yeah. So like there was that.
Taylor: Yeah.
Willie: The developer themselves stated, I guess, at some point, according to this, which is just a Wikipedia quote, that's like they stated themselves that they're not an indie studio.
Joseph: Mm.
Willie: And like when it got nominated like Geoff Keighley had to say some shit about it to be like, no, it's in the spirit of an indie game. So that's-
Taylor: Yeah, that's the-
Willie: -we did it.
Taylor: -that was the main argument, was that it's the spirit, the indie spirit.
Joseph: Yeah, he's full of shit
Taylor: The spirit of indie past.
Willie: He's like "independent can mean different things to different people and it's sort of a broad term, right? I mean you could argue does independent mean the budget of the game does independent mean where the source of the financing was?"
Taylor: Yeah.
Willie: "Is it based on the team size? Is it the kind of independent spirit of a game, meaning kind of a smaller game that's different?"
And then he was just like, ultimately we defer to the 120 media outlets that are voting on this and they all put this up for that.
Joseph: Mm-hmm. Here's the thing, this is easy to define for an awards show like this. Independent can mean all those different things, and I agree, it does mean all those different things, but
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: You fuckin set a list of rules.
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: You outline it for a fuckin award show and then it's easy.
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: Cause then you get to decide whether or not it fits in the criteria or not.
Taylor: Yep.
Willie: Right, and here's the sort of like, key to all of this for everyone. It's like, he says, but still goes back on it like,
"So yeah, Dave the Diver, that game is made by a group named Mintrocket. So it's a smaller game from a smaller group, but Mintrocket is part of Nexon. They're employees of Nexon, which is a very large publisher. So I think it's a fair debate and discussion about a game is truly independent or is it not."
But anyway, I don't know if it's maybe just more than their first game, so it couldn't be in the debut category, but like pretty much everything is overlapping there.
Taylor: Hmm.
Joseph: Mm-hmm.
Willie: But I do wonder if they like knew well enough to like not, that it couldn't be included anyway, or whatever. [bleep]
Joseph: Yeah, I guess we'll weasel our way through talking about Baldur's Gate 3.
Taylor: [chuckles] Yeah.
Willie: Mm-hmm. [Joseph laughs]
Taylor: Yeah, it's got a great name. It's got the number 3 in it. Um.
[Joseph and Willie laughing]
Willie: I mean, I've played, I, the thing is, I've still played more in early access than I've played of the full release.
Taylor: Oh, right, you have it?
Willie: I've been playing it for like two years.
Joseph: Yeah.
Willie: I just didn't play it once it came out.
Taylor: [Joseph and Taylor laughing] Damn. Damn. So did the early access just have a cutoff?
Willie: Yeah, there was only just a certain point you could get to it and you could start over. [bleep]
Joseph: All right, you back? You back, Taylor?
Taylor: Yeah, did you do the intro? Cause that's...
Joseph: Nah, not yet, not yet.
Taylor: Oh, okay, okay. Waiting for that long shit.
Joseph: Waiting for that long ass stupid shit.
Taylor: Yeah, that long stupid shit. Let's do it!
Joseph: Let me get some water real quick.
Taylor: Hey, it's me Joey, hehe, here with Berries and Blades. We're just a few guys on their computers.
Joseph: Sounds good.
Taylor: Got it. Nailed it.
Joseph: Alright, here we go.
Taylor: We're just a few guys drinking whiskey [Joseph chuckles] at our computers at 11 a. m. in the morning.
Joseph: Uh. [Joseph and Taylor chuckle]
[bleep]
Man, Light No Fire. Even for someone like me, never playing, uh, wow, I almost said Stardew Valley-
Taylor: Ooh.
Joseph: And then I almost said Starfield-
Taylor: Oh.
Joseph: But I'm actually talking about No Man's Sky.
Taylor: Ooh. Ooh.
Joseph: For someone who's never played No Man's Sky, that fucking sounds really cool.
Taylor: Well, it looks way different than No Man's Sky.
Willie: Mm-hmm.
Taylor: And like, if anything, that would be my thought as somebody who played a shit ton of No Man's Sky. That would definitely be my first thought about what's the next game they're playing is like, don't, don't stretch across the entire universe. Take that tech that you have and put that into a more condensed game somehow.
And that seems like it would be it.
Joseph: Yeah, I think you're right. What's interesting to me is that Light No Fire is going to be such a more massively big game than Starfield is-
Willie: Mm-hmm.
Joseph: You know, like we already know that-
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: -which is kind of mind blowing.
Taylor: Man. I think it's getting to the point that-
Joseph: They just created a game that's so big, but at the same time so fucking small.
Taylor: Yeah, dude, I think that this is going to be a big fucking eye opener for Bethesda. Like they're going to have to start investing in new tech. They're going to have to start doing new ideas. They're going to, they can't rely on the same old shit. Yes, 10 years ago, if you would have, if you would have asked me what could Fallout-
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: -do that would blow your mind. I'd be like, Whoa, put fallout on multiple planets and a spaceship, but that's fucking 10 years ago.
Willie: Well, that's the thing, if the game came out 10 years ago-
Taylor: Yeah, that would have been mind blowing.
Willie: -it would be a good game.
Taylor: Yeah, exactly.
Willie: It would be like-
Joseph: Yeah, yeah.
Willie: It actually could handle being a good game.
Taylor: Yep.
Willie: And it would be like, there's so much to do in this world. And it's like, so many other games are doing bits and pieces of that-
Taylor: Yep.
Willie: -better now that it just doesn't hold up.
Taylor: Yeah, and it's almost like they didn't even know No Man's Sky exists at this [chuckles] point, right? Like. [Joseph and Willie chuckle] Like it's almost like they were like, wait, wait, No Man's what? Whenever this long...[Joseph and Willie laughing] dude, fucking, eight, 10 years, these dudes have been fucking building the thing you're talking about, but building it way fucking better.
Joseph: Seriously, seriously.
Taylor: Like even to the point where it's almost so tone deaf.
Willie: Shit, I said-
Taylor: What?
Willie: -Uh, for a second, I was like, I said, Metal He... Hellsinger and now I'm getting ads for it but it's not. It's something else.
Taylor: Oh shit. Yeah. You brought [Joseph laughing] that on yourself, dude.
Willie: I was like, damn.
Taylor: But I thought you would be driving mechs and shit in Starfield, right? Because of the, the way that the trailer played out, but it turns out.
Joseph: Naw bro, you don't even get a single fucking vehicle.
Taylor: No. And you don't get any exo armor. Are you telling me that fucking way in the future, people are just out there with zero exo armor, when we're about to have it, we're five years from it here? Like
Joseph: Dude.
Taylor: -those motherfuckers are out of touch.
Joseph: You know what? This is how I kind of felt about the Star World.
Taylor: Star....[laughs] you can't even remember the name of it-
Joseph: [laughing] Star World, what the fuck?
Taylor: -It was so fucking.... I don't blame you.
Joseph: This is what I kind of thought about the Starfield different planets was that in a lot of ways it felt like the very first Mass Effect.
Taylor: Oh yeah.
Joseph: These plain empty planets that you can barely fucking explore.
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: But Mass Effect is such a better fucking narratively driven game.
Taylor: Yeah, because they didn't shove a thousand of those planets down your throat.
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: They were like, here's 3 that are like this. Here's 6.
Joseph: Explorable.
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: And you couldn't even land on all of them-
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: -right?
Taylor: Yep.
Joseph: Like, in a lot of ways, they, they made a game that is worse than Mass Effect in 2023.
Taylor: Yeah. No, they really did.
Joseph: And Mass Effect is probably like 20 fucking years old or something.
Taylor: If they don't take this as a full fucking pivot point to like, "Hey, we need to reimagine everything that we're doing and make it way better" then they... they may start to decline other than being a publisher. Like they still choose good projects to publish.
They still have good studios, but they may, we may see them seriously fucking decline.
Joseph: Mm-hmm.
Taylor: Like they'll be getting bought up by fucking, uh, what's that company that buys up all the game [chuckles] publisher?
Joseph: Microsoft.
Taylor: No, no, no, no. [Joseph chuckles] It's a, um, [Willie chuckles] no, it's an independent thing. And allegedly they're like, uh, funded by crypto and-
Joseph: Really? This doesn't sound familiar at all.
Taylor: Embracer, Embracer Group. That's it.
Joseph: Mm.
Taylor: Like and that... we're seeing results of Embracer Group. If you've never looked that up, go fucking look that shit up because they, they have bought hundreds, if not thousands of studios that were kind of on the ropes, not sure if they're going to make it-
Joseph: Hmm.
Taylor: -they would buy them, buy the IPs. And now we're starting to see the repercussions of that.
Which is a lot... some of these studios are now starting to shut down, even major ones, because even with that funding-
Joseph: Mm.
Taylor: -even with being bought, it was like, eh, there wasn't enough innovation there to push them forward. And so you see Embracer starting to sell IPs and stuff. It's a, that's an episode in itself, but it would take a lot of research to even go down that rabbit hole.
Cause that is, if you start looking at the titles that they have and the fucking IPs that they have amassed, it really brings the question of like, what the fuck are you doing with all this?[bleep]
00:22:52
Joseph: I'll tell you what I believe in, this fucking Mouse trailer right now.
Willie: Yeah. [chuckles]
Taylor: Mouse trailer?
Joseph: This shit looks amazing, dude.
Taylor: What's that?
Willie: Yeah, I just put another thing in, in chat.
Joseph: This wasn't a part of Games, uh, Game Awards, right?
Willie: No, no, this just got announced like four hours ago or something.
Joseph: This is fucking great. Fucking mouse gangster game, dude.
Taylor: Oh, I already like the, uh, the orbital, or fisheye lens, like wide angle lens. Oh, shit.
Willie: The description is like it's trying to do for [Taylor laughing] first person shooter what Cuphead did-
Taylor: Yeah, yeah-
Willie: -for run and gun shooter.
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: -yeah, that's exactly what I thought-
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: -was this is like a first person shooter Cuphead. The fucking wind up with the fist [laughs] as he's going to [Joseph chuckles] punch somebody and he's like, I'm going to sock you. Oh, shit. Let me turn a little sound on. Oh, the music.
Joseph: Oh, shit. I haven't even heard it yet.
Taylor: [mimicking trumpet sounds]
Willie: Yeah, I haven't heard it either.
Taylor: Yeah. Oh, my.
Joseph: Oh, it's ragtime.
Taylor: Oh, finger gun. Oh, my God.
Joseph: Yeah, straight up Cuphead there.
Taylor: Why not? Cuphead did great.
Willie: Also, the handgun towards the end of the trailer, I don't know if...
Taylor: The handgun, exactly. It's fucking [Willie chuckles] ridiculous.
[bleep]
Joseph: Like Baldur's Gate 3, like you were saying, Willie, like, it's just a fucking good, straightforward game that you can play for a hundred hours.
Willie: Easily hundreds of hours, and you still see new shit.
Joseph: The story's good. Unlimited fucking choices. Yeah, that's just, you're just making a good fucking game.
Taylor: Well, we need to know is, will we see a Saints Row before GTA [laughs] trying to, [Joseph laughs]
Joseph: I never even played that, that franchise.
Taylor: Oh man, you're not missing much.
Willie: It's fun man.
Taylor: But yeah, the ones that got into the co op, um, that was fun. That really was.
Willie: Yeah. They're just fun to play around in. Like, they're just GTA, but they're just over the top.
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: Mm.
Willie: And whichever one, I think it was three or four, whichever one you got superpowers in.
Joseph: Oh, yeah. That's four.
Willie: That one is just like-
Taylor: Yep.
Willie: -is basically a mix between Crackdown and GTA-
Taylor: Yep.
Willie: -and it's just silly and fun. And the story is ridiculous.
Taylor: Yeah. You could fly around with your dong hanging out. You could fly around the world, [Joseph chuckling] literally fucking butt ass naked. And all it did was blur out your junk. You just [chuckling] be fucking going around the world, uh, flying around and have your dick out. I want to say that that's one that Embracer Group bought.
[bleep]
Joseph: Check, check, check. Motherfucker check.
Taylor: Motherfucker check to wreck. If you don't give me respect, then I bleck your pec. Wait.
Joseph: Bleck.
Taylor: Bleck your pec? What does that even mean?
Joseph: It's gotta have something to do with the pectoral muscle.
Taylor: It might.
Joseph: What does bleck mean?
Taylor: [in a whispher] I don't know.
Joseph: Like a little lick?
Taylor: Yeah, yeah.
Joseph: Glancing, glancing off the pec with your lips?
Taylor: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That could be it.
Joseph: Blecking on the pecs.
Taylor: Bleck your pec. A blep on your pec.
Joseph: I guess it could be like a bird peck.
Taylor: Yeah, it could be. Could be.
Joseph: Beak? Beaking?
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: Beaking and pecking.
Taylor: Beaking and tweaking. Never fleeking on the weekend.
Joseph: There you go. There you go.
Taylor: Now I'm gray and seeking. Found me tweaking.
Joseph: Got it. Hitting the groove.
Taylor: Yep. See my nipples leaking. Wait.
[Joseph and Willie laughing]
I fucked it up. I fucked it up.
Joseph: [laughing] Fucked it up.
Taylor: That's not the...that's not what I meant. Take backsies!
Joseph: Alright, I'm ready.
Taylor: Let's go!
Joseph: Let's do this.
Taylor: Let's fucking do it! I'm ready to talk about this game I've never played.
Yeah!
Willie: Just ask questions, it'll be alright.
[bleep]
Joseph: Oh, I just realized I
Taylor: Didn't have your shit together? You should get your shit together. You might consider that.
[bleep]
What do they call their citizens? Michiganese?
Joseph: I don't know. Michigans?
Taylor: Michigants. [laughs]
Joseph: Michigonians. [laughs]
Taylor: [laughing] Michigonians. [Joseph and Taylor laughing]
Man, all of them sound right, [Willie laughs] which is really fucked up.
Joseph: [laughing] Yeah, yeah.
Taylor: Every single one of those sounds like it could be a, a potential.
Joseph: What are people from...? Oh! Michigander.
[Willie chuckles]
Taylor: Pfft. [Joseph and Willie laugh]
The dumbest... [Joseph and Willie laughing] of course, it was the dumbest one that we didn't even think of.
Joseph: Oh, hold on. Michigander. Yeah.
Taylor: That's...
Joseph: Michigander. Michigander. Michiganean? Michiganean.
Taylor: None of that makes sense. None of that is right. Whoever did it really fucked up.
Joseph: Yeah, Michigan Radio, headline, or article title, Michigander or Michiganian? The Passionate Debate?
[bleep]
Taylor: I like that ninja action. Give me the sword.
Joseph: I like swords. [bleep]
Bro, I was not expecting you to pull that shit out of a plastic bag in the room.
Taylor: Yeah, bro. That's the way we do it. We keep our Monsters nice and fucking close and warm.
[Joseph laughs]
Joseph: And warm, ugh. That sounds just fucking acidic.
Willie: Have you seen... [Joseph and Willie chuckle]
Joseph: Look at his face.
[Taylor laughing]
Willie: I don't know if they have them there. Have you seen the, uh, the Monster alcoholic drinks? Joey and I saw'em-
Taylor: Oh.
Willie: - the other day. What were they called?
Taylor: I don't fuck with anything that's Monster and alcohol ever since they fucking started murdering people in college or whatever. I'm like, if some college kids can't handle that shit, I definitely can't handle [Joseph and Willie laugh] that shit, Four Loco or whatever. Like
Joseph: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taylor: Fuck that.
Joseph: That's a good rule to live by.
Taylor: Yeah. If it's murdering those motherfuckers and. Mm-mm..
Willie: I think it was called, I don't think it was called Nasty Beast, but maybe it was.
Taylor: Aw, pfft.
Joseph: It was something like that. Nasty something.
Willie: I think it was Nasty Beast then.
Taylor: Some of 'em be on point, too. Some be like Heart Stopper.
Joseph: Yeah, yeah. [Joseph and Willie laugh]
Taylor: Get your Heart Stopper, Dreamsicle flavor now, and you're just like, oh, what the...?
Joseph: Cardiac Arrest.
Taylor: Yeah. What the fuck?
Willie: Oh, sh... Yeah, Nasty Beast. Hard tea.
Joseph: Oh, it's a tea.
Taylor: T Boz, Left Ear, [Joseph and Willie laughing] coming at you with Don't Go Chasin Water Balls.
[bleep]
00:28:48
Joseph: Have either of you seen that person on, probably TikTok, but I've seen it on Instagram. It's a woman and she's like, reading fake stories as like an NPR host.
Taylor: Oh God, no, but those people are rife for being made fun of.
Willie: Mm-mm.
Joseph: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taylor: Uh, I'm Ira Glass, and I'm here to talk to you er about er duh buh. I always think that. Every time, like, I hear, like, Ira Glass, um-
Joseph: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Taylor: -Uh, Lakshmi. I'm Pam Lakshmi, or whatever her name is-
[Joseph laughing, Willie chuckles]
Joseph: -oh, held a lapel mic.
Taylor: Everyone has decided yes, some are lapel mics. Some, uh, this girl that Rebecca watches is like this funny, maybe like Indian lady that she's like an influencer. She's funny as fuck, but she has embraced that and she has like little bedazzled ones and shit that are like literally a tiny microphone. [Willie chuckling]
And fucking...[all laughing]
Joseph: Why did I see those thumbs up on Taylor's screen?
Willie: Yeah, I don't know.
Taylor: Oh, did you? Oh.
Joseph: It like popped up and did the like on screen emoji. I don't know how that happened. That's the first time I saw that.
Taylor: Alright. Thumbs up.
Willie: Yeah, is your camera doing it? Or is it like...
Taylor: Let's fucking go. I don't know.
Willie: Do you have a camera hub going? [Taylor laughs] Is that like reading shit?
[Joseph and Taylor laughing]
Joseph: Thumbs up. Let's fucking go.
Taylor: Let's effing go. Let me see here. It says for effects I've got to be logged in through my iPhone. I don't even know what that means so...
Joseph: The thing is I don't even think he was doing a thumbs up.
Willie: He's doing it. Yeah, there it is.
Joseph: There it is. What the fuck?
Taylor: Yeah, you gotta have white hands, dawg.
[all laughing]
They haven't figured out, you know, a shade, any different than-
Joseph: Brown or darker hands?
Taylor: Yeah, anything darker than fucking a sheet of paper [Joseph and Willie laughing] is not enough.
[Joseph and Willie laughing]
It evidently doesn't know [laughing] It's not great.
Joseph: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Willie: Is that Elgato then? It's like from Camera Hub or is it from something else?
Taylor: You got me, dude.
Willie: I guess it is just...
Taylor: There's nothing on Camera Hub that says like, we'll put up stupid shit if you emote.
[Joseph laughs]
Willie: Yeah.
Joseph: You're talking about El Gato, right? Camera hub?
Taylor: El Gato.
Joseph: El Gato. The OG, Original Gato.
Taylor: It's not doing anything I really want. [Joseph chuckles] That's crazy. All I could see was a little side of a bubble.
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: There it is.
Joseph: There it is. Yeah. [Willie chuckles] I wish it was Riverside, man.
Willie: Yeah.
[Willie and Taylor chuckle]
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: That's what I was hoping when I was, when I started trying it.
Taylor: That's real fucking dumb. I mean, it's okay. But just the fact that. You have to try so hard to get it to work.
Joseph: Mm-hmm.
Taylor: Welcome to our podcast. Oh, that worked. Okay. [Joseph chuckles] Peace to all. Hey!
Joseph: Woah! [Joseph and Willie laugh]
Taylor: Hey. Uh.
Joseph: I don't know why it was a bunch of balloons.
Taylor: Rock on, uh, peace. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Why does peace make balloons?
Willie: And then it did thumbs up anyway. [laughing]
Taylor: What is that? [Taylor and Willie laughing]
Joseph: Damn, now you're just getting them nonstop. [laughs]
Taylor: Fist emoji bump. Partially it seems like I have to just hold it there.
Joseph: Yeah, I think it does have something to do with it being like still enough. That'd be great if there was something responding to the middle finger.
Taylor: Damn. Okay. I'm sure there's some other stuff, like if I actually got a good vomit on screen, [Willie chuckles] like maybe it would put up the vomit emoji, [all laugh] but I don't have a bucket here, so we're just gonna hold off on that.
Joseph: Do uh, hold up the middle finger again, Taylor? You have like a, a good looking like clip art middle finger shape.
Taylor: I do, right? Like, boom. That should be meme worthy.
Joseph: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taylor: Huh. Huh. And I can fire it so fast. Huh. Huh.
Joseph: I'm gonna laugh if it does a thumbs up right now. [Taylor laughs]
Taylor: Right? It does like two swords crossing.
Joseph: Double, double middle finger equals thumbs up.
Taylor: Huh.
Joseph: Oh yeah, that's a good one to try.
Taylor: Nope. Shit is very basic right now. So, that's alright. Well, that was fun.
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: That was exciting. I didn't expect that kind of fuckin rush this early in the morning.
Joseph: It's that monster, bro.
Taylor: Yeah, dude.
Joseph: Took one swig and all of a sudden, off the rails.
Taylor: Fuckin strawberry fields or whatever. Ultra Strawberry Dreams. I love when they have to put the word ultra in front of it for no fuckin reason.
[bleep]
Joseph: That baby?
Taylor: That is baby. Yeah, let me close up the Well, all the doors are closed, so he must be crunking.
[Joseph and Willie laughing]
Joseph: He must be crunking.
Taylor: He is crunking.
Joseph: I did not hear that word anywhere else besides here.
Taylor: Nope, neither do I. That's why [Willie laughing] I stick it around. [Joseph laughing] So that's the reason, you'll be surprised how many times I'll use it. And people will be like, start laughing, just cause like, they, they never hear that fucking word.
Joseph: Yeah, dude, it's shit, that, that's, it's lived its day.
Taylor: Mm, mm mm, mm mm. Nah, I beg to differ. I think it's, it could make a comeback.
[bleep]
Joseph: P p p please.
Taylor: Hey, we did pretty good, we didn't even make it to 12:05.
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: Don't go chasing water balls.
Joseph: [humming Waterfalls by TLC] Hmm, mm. Mm. Hmm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm.
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: [continuing to hum Waterfalls with more emphasis] Mm. Mm. Mm.
Taylor: Wow. What's crazy is, uh, Zhou, a lot of parts of Zhou. Okay, like specifically him jumping up, doing a double jump. And then, uh, dashing over a crystal looks so much like Prince of Persia.
Joseph: Dude, and there's time, there's time mechanics in the game too.
Willie: It also looks like the Celeste movement too.
Taylor: Oh God. Oh my God. Watch this game fucking own Prince of Persia. That would not be a good look.
Joseph: Dude, it could. It could.
Willie: It, definitely could man. It looks so fucking good. I'm like excited about that.
Taylor: It looks good it reminds me more of Dead Cells. Like the uh, just the action in it and the need to get all over the screen.
Willie: I have been meaning to play the Dead Cells Castlevania game and I haven't done it.
Taylor: What?! Dead C... is that like a standalone? Like, uh,
Willie: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did like a, a Castlevania game in the style of Dead Cells.
Taylor: Oh shit. What's it called?
Willie: Return to Castlevania.
Taylor: Return to Castlevania. I never even heard of this.
Willie: I've been meaning to play that and I haven't fucking done it.
Taylor: They were another one of those, uh, devs that did so much work, unexpected work on Dead Cells, which is like already such a perfect game that you really didn't expect a ton of DLC yet they did like eight or 10 or some ridiculous amount of DLCs for that game. Joey, did you ever play Dead Cells?
Joseph: No, every time you say it, I just keep thinking about Papa Roach.
Taylor: Oh my god, dude. Dude, I feel like...[Willie chuckling]
Joseph: [shouting Dead Cell like Jacoby Shaddix from Papa Roach] Dead Cell...
Taylor: I don't know what that song Papa Roach is awful, but
Joseph: What are you talking about, dude?
Taylor: I'm talking about logic.
Joseph: Shit Papa Roach, Papa Roach in 2000 to 2004.
Taylor: Dude, you need to buy Dead Cells when it's on sale and play that game. You would fucking love it, man. It's like every mechanic from every, every platformer that's ever been like just a fucking hyper badass platformer. They have it all. The amount of weapons... you have a menagerie of weapons in your kind of main place where you, where you start off each run and you have like 50 fucking jars hanging around you.
And that's where your weapons go as you accumulate weapons. And, um, the weapons are like vastly different. They all do way different shit, all the powers and the combos and stuff that you can put together. Buy that shit. Even if it's... that game is one of the few games, if it was 20 right now, whatever the original price was, I would say it's still fucking well worth it.
Because when you buy that you're going to get-
Joseph: Nice.
Taylor: -every DLC that they have, which is. Again, like 10 or 20 or something fucking ridiculous.
Joseph: Oh, geez, a roguelite Metroidvania with some souls light.
Taylor: Dude. Yeah, I swear to god you will love this game. Don't...
Joseph: That sounds ridiculous.
Taylor: Yeah, you will... I can't believe you've never played it like this is... this is my top platformer of all time for sure-
Joseph: Oh shit.
Taylor: -is Dead Cells. Like I put in a hundred and thirty or a hundred and fifty hours on this game.
Joseph: Really!?
Taylor: Yeah. Yeah, dude. I forget about it because I don't play a ton of platformers, which is even more of a selling point. Like I'm not a huge fan of platformers in general, but this fucking game.
Joseph: Yeah, yeah.. That is kind of selling me.
Taylor: Dude.
Joseph: You've never shown Celeste the respect it deserves.
Taylor: Celeste, Celeste my balls is all I can [Willie chuckles] say about that.
Joseph: Which means I can't trust anything you fucking say.
Taylor: No, Celeste is decent, but this is, this is my kind of platformer. This is like straight up action-
Joseph: Mm.
Taylor: -dark souls type action.
Joseph: I do like the visuals. Yeah, it looks fucking cool.
Willie: I want to play with that Return to Castlevania because it's made by-
Taylor: Me too.
Willie: -it's like a mashup of these two games, like as far as-
Joseph: Mm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Willie: -the art style with that game.
Taylor: Yep. And they are made in it like to be together too, because like a lot of the weapon styles and stuff, um, that are in Dead Cells are straight up Castlevania type.
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: Like the way...
Joseph: Okay. This makes way more sense to me now.
Taylor: Yeah.
Willie: Other thing that I'm looking forward to that I didn't say on the thing is a Tomb Raider one through three remastered.
Joseph: Oh.
Willie: That's supposed to be out.
Taylor: Oh, really?
Joseph: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Willie: Yeah. That's supposed to be out in February or something-
Taylor: Oh.
Willie: -but that's one of those that no one's seen any fucking gameplay-
Taylor: Oh no.
Willie: -except for like 15 seconds of it and were like, uh, come on, man.
Taylor: Was it good 15 seconds?
Willie: Is this game gonna come out or...
Joseph: Yeah. That sounds super fucking cool, man. I loved, I fucking love the newest trilogy. All three of those.
Taylor: They were pretty good.
Joseph: The last one I felt like didn't have enough combat in it, but the story for all three of those games was good.
Willie: The First Descendant was another one on my list.
Taylor: Oh, right.
Willie: Dude, Senua's Saga, Hellblade 2.
Joseph: I've never played any of those, man but they look-.
Willie: That looks so fucking good.
Joseph: The graphics look good.
Taylor: The graphics were good. I found myself to get caught in a couple loops on the first one. Just places where so I like the catch of that one is that they don't really tell you much at all about what you should be doing.
Joseph: Mm.
Taylor: And sometimes the like boss battle scenes are more like you're fighting something. But also if you've got to be doing something like you've got to be utilizing the environment or whatever. And there were just times where I would hit a complete roadblock and had to look it up.
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: I think I finally finished it.
Joseph: Just like didn't know what to do.
Taylor: Yeah. So I'd be curious to see what they do with two.
Joseph: Interesting.
Taylor: If they, cause I'm sure I wasn't the only person that had that kind of issue. So maybe they've addressed that in some ways of like,
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: Just adding a little bit of extra kind of like, HUD cause they don't, is that right, Willie? Like they didn't even have a HUD almost at all. Maybe like one little-
Willie: Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember seeing anything. Like I never played the first one.
Taylor: Oh, okay.
Willie: I just watched gameplay from it.
Taylor: They were, they were like mega into the visuals. It was, it was like, 90 percent about the story and the visual.
Willie: Oh yeah. It looks fucking beautiful. And so does the next one, the next one and all the tech demos they've been doing with Unreal Engine Five and Metahuman make it look fucking really good.
[dog barking in background]
Taylor: Ah.
[Joseph mimicking the dog barking]
All right. That's our physical therapist. I'm going to bounce out. Or is the, uh, recording stopped?
Willie: No we gotta stop it.
Joseph: Oh, hold...oh...shit, shit. Yeah. Let me stop this.
[bleep]
00:40:12
Joseph: You remind me of when I was a kid riding the bus home from school.
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: I was like, just literally people watching like, uh-
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: -elementary school, middle school, when we'd pull up to the actual high school, I'd be people watching and just like creating fucking soundtracks for them.
Taylor: Oh god.
Joseph: Looking out the window, some people would have goofy ass walks and you're like coming up with [Taylor laughing] a goofy ass sound to match their walk.
[bleep]
Taylor: Today. We're talking about THE FINALS Countdowns. We're just three dudes chilling in the place. Wondering what it's like to be counted down to nothing. To zero infinitile.
Joseph: Why are you fucking yelling, dude?
Taylor: I thought you wanted me to yell. Didn't you say to yell? [whispering] Did you say to yell?
Joseph: It probably is a good idea to pull the mic away a little bit.
Taylor: Nah, I don't think so.
Joseph: Since you're fucking screaming.
Taylor: I don't think so. I'm gonna just, here, we'll put it right there is what you get. Half inch.
Joseph: Half inch is probably what it'll take.
Taylor: Yeah, might be. How's that now? I'm not hitting the yellows.
Willie: Yeah, that thing's never fuckin right. I don't know what that's about.
Taylor: No, it says I'm about halfway right now.
Joseph: The meter's fuckin worthless.
Willie: Yeah, I don't even know why that exists, if it's gonna look like that.
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: Seems not like the opposite of granular. Grin ular. Whatever that is.
[bleep]
Joseph: Meh, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh.
Taylor: Meh, meh, meh, meh.
[bleep]
Check, check. I've got gain. You've got gain. We've got gain. Get gain-
Joseph: That's better.
Taylor: -Motherfuckers. Get Gain, motherfuckers.
Joseph: Get Gain.
Taylor: Get. Oh shit, that's too much. Get.
Joseph: Yeah, that's too much.
Taylor: Get Gain. How's that? Is that a sweet spot?
Joseph: Maybe a slightly lower.
Taylor: Get Gain. Is that better?
Joseph: Yeah, yeah.
Taylor: Is that optimal?
Joseph: Dang, Willie drinking fucking mimosas.
Taylor: Damn, mimosas-
Joseph: Shit...fucking...
Taylor: -cheers motherfucka.
Joseph: 14 ounce mimosa right there.
Taylor: That's how you gotta do it in the morning, honestly.
Willie: Definitely has way too much fucking orange juice, but whatever.
[Joseph and Taylor laughing]
Joseph: That's a half a fucking carton.
[bleep]
Crunch wrap.
Taylor: Bring me a fucking [Joseph laughing] fajita crunch wrap, or die.
Joseph: Bring me a Doritos Locos Taco.
Taylor: Haha, fuck you for bringing that up. Sounds delicious.
Joseph: Oh, dude. This is kind of a first for me, but the other night I was like, telling Meg that I've been feening some Taco Bell or Taco Cabana. Which is not something to ever fucking feen.
Taylor: Damn. Do y'all have Taco C up there?
Joseph: I don't know.
Taylor: Do y'all have Taco...
Joseph: Probably.
Taylor: Y'all don't Oh, really? In Colorado?
Joseph: Shh...I have no idea.
Taylor: No way.
Joseph: That's a good point, because there probably isn't even one.
Taylor: I thought they were a southern thing, for the most part. Like Texas even, or something.
Joseph: I have no fucking clue.
Willie: Yeah, they're not here. I don't think.
Joseph: Let's see.
Willie: It's funny that you say that, because two days ago, maybe yesterday, fuck, I don't remember.
Joseph: Oh, yeah, there's not. Wait, why does it only pull up like four on the fucking map? [Willie chuckles] Like the entire U. S.
Taylor: But there is, of course, Taco Bell.
Joseph: And none of them in Austin.
Taylor: Dude-
Joseph: Oh wait.
Taylor: -sometimes if you go to Taco Bell and they're on their a game, you might get a fucking wonderful delight.
Joseph: Dude, what?
Willie: No, we were driving to the... I can't remember if it was the store or actually going to just pick up some food the other day. We just needed to see if the car still works, so we left the house to go do something.
Taylor: Nice. [Taylor and Willie laugh]
Willie: [Joseph and Taylor laughing] It's been fucking frozen for, you know, a week-
Taylor: Yeah.
Willie: -so who knows if it's gonna start.
Taylor: That's not a bad call. That's true. Turn it over every week is that's about what you want to do.
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: You know, if it's like classic cars or anything in fucking climate control, you still want to start them like once every week or two.
Willie: Yeah. So we did that and then went for a ride and, uh, we passed Taco Bell. I was like, man, it's been fucking, it's been a long time since we had Taco Bell.
Taylor: And you never know at any given moment, they might be like combining seven of their products into one [Willie chuckles] thing.
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: And like, it might be the fucking master class. That you never knew that you needed [Joseph and Taylor laughing] like the Cruncharito Supreme with-
Joseph: Yep, yep.
Taylor: You know, chicken wings inside, just a combination, pan fried potatoes.
Joseph: You mean that, uh, that Raising Canes, Taco Bell collab?
Taylor: Fuck you, dude. You know, I fucking hate Raising Canes. [Joseph and Willie laugh] Don't ever bring that shit up on the podcast again. [laughing] Don't ever bring it up until, until they get some fucking gravy, I don't want to hear anything about that place.
[bleep]
00:44:25
Joseph: Willie, that Mattress Mack, that was the guy right?
Willie: Yeah, yeah that was the guy.
Joseph: That had the shirt?
Willie: Mm-hmm.
Taylor: Mattress Mack. Wait, what happened?
Joseph: That shit was fucking pretty genius, dude.
Willie: That shit was ridiculous.
Joseph: I don't know how he delivered it so well.
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: I don't know.
Joseph: He must have some fucking hood in him to like deliver it that well.
Willie: He sent me an Instagram video of Mattress Mack wearing a fucking ridiculous jacket going on about a sale.
Taylor: Dude, Mattress Mack is not afraid to look just like Tupac. Like, he will straight up, before he leaves the house, he will be looking at a framed image of Tupac and he will be making sure that he looks exactly like it. Like, reverse fucking bandana tied in the front.
[Willie chuckles]
Like, and he'll pull it off. He's just a fucking G. It's like, I guess-
Joseph: Oh, so this is the thing he's done before.
Taylor: Oh yeah. Well, he's like, uh, he's an icon in Houston and, and he's, uh, it depends on who you ask. A lot of people will be like, oh yeah, he's insanely like philanthropic and, and helps out a ton of stuff. And he has financially, but then if you ask another person, they'll be like, that dude's a crackhead.
[Joseph laughing]
Taylor: All are actually accurate.
[Taylor laughs]
Joseph: [laughing] Yeah, yeah.
Taylor: Like, you're not...
Willie: Yeah.
[Taylor laughs]
Willie: It's all of the above for sure.
Taylor: Yeah, yeah.
Willie: He has done a lot for Houston, to give a lot of money away and a lot of fucking mattresses and shit.
Joseph: And he's just balling or what, like?
Taylor: Mm-hmm.
Willie: Been doing well since, you know, you heard him, he's been doing that since fucking [Joseph laughs] 81. [chuckles]
Joseph: Been slangin' mattresses since '81, dog.
Taylor: Dude's like a multi multi multi millionaire. Yeah.
Joseph: No shit, man.
Taylor: Mm-hmm.
Willie: But yeah, I think like a few years ago, he got himself in trouble. I like looked a little more into that, like what that controversy was. And it was basically [Taylor chuckles] that he just like, wouldn't admit the, that he didn't think the election was stolen or some shit that he was just like-
Joseph: Oh, really,
Willie: -you know, it's up to the courts to decide or whatever. So they'll figure it out.
Joseph: Mm.
Willie: I don't know exactly what the details were. I didn't look too far into it, but it was something about that, that he was just he wouldn't just go ahead and be like, no, he fucking lost, you know?
Joseph: Yeah. Yeah. He's trying to be neutral.
Taylor: That depends on what bubble you're stuck in because [Willie chuckles] they, you know, there's certain people that would just tell you that that dude is the fucking greatest thing that's ever happened to the planet earth.
And you're like, that's, [ laughs] that's incorrect in a lot of ways, but you know, like the people that believe it, man, they're... don't waste your fucking time trying to like convince them otherwise.
Joseph: Don't go chasing water balls.
Taylor: Don't go chasing waterballs, dude. Please stick to the tight sacks that your been used to.
[Joseph and Taylor laughing]
[bleep]
Joseph: Yo, I looked up Taco Cabana. [Taylor laughs] There's only...
[Joseph laughs]
Taylor: I can't believe we're still talking about this. Yeah, go on. Go on.
Willie: I'm looking at the map right now, too, just so you know. [Taylor laughs]
Joseph: This is mind blowing because I only see locations in Texas. And fucking New Mexico. That's it.
Taylor: That's crazy.
Joseph: Is that what you see?
Willie: Mm-hmm.
Joseph: That's mind blowing to me.
Willie: The closest one to us is in Longview cause it's out in East Texas.
Joseph: I did not know this was so concentrated to the Texas fucking New Mexico region, dude. I just thought they were everywhere.
Taylor: Yeah, I didn't either. I thought it was like a Taco Bell or at least like, you know, more regional-
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: -at least spreading out a couple States, but-
Joseph: Figured it was nationwide.
Taylor: -but honestly, uh, devil's advocate who, how many people want to get fucking stabbed in a drive thru? [Willie chuckling] So it's like, I think that's a pretty exclusive [Joseph chuckling] Texas thing.
That's like, like, hey y'all let's get real drunk and go up and talk shit to somebody with different, you know, colored skin than me or whatever, like whatever people are thinking when they go up to that place and start just. being racist or just pulling out a knife and stabbing someone. It's uh, I stopped eating there a long time ago.
Soon as I heard like the third stabbing over on [Willie chuckles] Riverside, I was like, no, no, that place, [laughs] I'll just choose a different restaurant, [Willie laughs] you know, if that's three in like 50, 000 get stabbed or whatever, that's, that's, I don't like those odds.
Joseph: Wait wait, wait. I think...
Taylor: Sometimes I have a stabbable face. People might just look at me and think like, I'll stab you motherfucker.
Willie: Dude, I went to that one on Riverside so many times.
Joseph: Yeah.
Willie: At like 2am.
Taylor: Yeah. Oh yeah.
Joseph: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taylor: It was good, dude. The fajita, the fajita tacos. Get the fuck outta here, man. And then you could get some beers if you go inside.
Willie: Dude, just the fucking fajita nachos, dude.
Taylor: Oh, fuck.
Willie: Get the straight up nachos with fajita meat on top.
Taylor: Yep.
Joseph: Either Google Maps is actually broken this time or it's just fucking with me, but I looked up Taco Bell and it's only showing me Taco Bells in Colorado Springs, which can't fucking be true.
[Willie chuckles]
Taylor: No.
Joseph: Maybe I was wrong about Taco Cabana.
Willie: I don't think so. I'm looking at Taco Cabana's real map.
Taylor: Oh, their own map.
Willie: Like on their website.
Joseph: Oh really?
Willie: Yeah. Yeah.
Joseph: Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
Taylor: They're satisfied. They're like, we like our customers serve to stab ratio. We, we just like it the way it is.
Joseph: Dude. And they're, they're definite, definitely like, we don't need to be nationwide. We just need two fucking hundred across....
Taylor: Honestly, all they need is San Antonio. Everything else is fucking...
Joseph: Yeah, across Austin, San Antonio and Dallas and Houston.
Taylor: San Antonio also has a banger. Uh, what was it? Las Palapas or something? What was the name of the fucking Los something? Uh, Los amigos?
Joseph: Los Pollo Hermanos.
Taylor: No. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. I knew the manager. His name was Gustavo. [Joseph and Taylor chuckle]
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: He had a fucking little look in his eye. Like he might kill you at any moment. He moved.
Willie: Looks like they're...
Taylor: He went to, uh, He went to Taco Cabana. Imagine how many people just have to eat shitty ass Del Taco instead. Is that a...
Joseph: Oh, maybe there's one of those here.
Taylor: Don't eat there, dude. It's never [Willie chuckles] fucking worth it. Don't go to a place that serves burgers and tacos.
[Joseph laughing]
Pick your fucking lane, dude. I, don't do it. See, Del Taco, shitty ass, has 594 locations in the U. S. Ugh, that many places are eating that and thinking, I may eat that again. Ugh.
Joseph: There's Taco Bell related shit for a Fortnite-
Taylor: Of course.
Joseph: -Taco Bell death run
Taylor: Pfft. Does the guy hold his ass like he's just trying to hold back a fucking diarrhea and-
Joseph: It's weird there's like a-
Taylor: -sprinting to a toilet
Joseph: -There's a banana running at a, like a vicious looking taco, like with a face and everything.
Taylor: Taco Bell Death Run Fortnite maps. Oh, I see that.
Joseph: Yeah, you see that. Look at that taco dude.
Taylor: Yeah, I do see that.
Joseph: It's a video.
Taylor: Oh, it's got, that influencer has the same headphones as me.
Joseph: Oh, this guy needs to shut the fuck up.
Taylor: Yeah, I muted him before he even started. I saw his annoying ass face and fucking muted the shit out of it.
Joseph: He got like three words off on me. Fucked up my whole day.
Willie: When I looked up Taco Bell Fortnite, there's a kid eats Taco Bell for every kill in Fortnite.
Joseph: Oh gosh, how many, how many Taco Bells?
Willie: I don't know. I don't know what the fuck he means.
Joseph: [bleep]
00:51:05
Taylor: Here we go. Oh no. I gotta make one more drink. No. Y'all already fucked up.
Joseph: Alright, alright. Go ahead. Go ahead man.
Taylor: Wasting my drink. My entire show drink.
Joseph: Fucking piece of shit.
Taylor: Motherfuckers.
[Joseph laughing]
[bleep]
It's like, uh, Pokemon meets, um, Zelda. Like the, whatever the new one is. Joey, you'd probably fucking love it.
Joseph: Is it really?
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: Or are you just being disrespectful?
[bleep]
Ooh. First fucking article I see. Top stories. Palworld Pokemon plagiarism accusations pile up as CEO responds.
[Taylor laughs]
Taylor: I'm sure they do.
Joseph: I can't wait to hear that defense.
Taylor: Well.
Joseph: You've got a ball and everything that you're throwing at them. I think.
Willie: No. It's a sphere.
Taylor: Right? It seems. Ay bro. Yeah. D... Watch that ball talk. That's a sphere. That's a freaking. Yeah. Here we....
Joseph: Palworld sphere.
Taylor: Becomes an instant hit.
Joseph: Is that what it is?
Willie: Oh.
Joseph: Uh...Palsphere.
Taylor: Palsphere. Probably is.
Willie: I did see yesterday that there's a Pokemon mod already that somebody made for it-
Joseph: Oh gosh.
Willie: -so that you can fucking reskin everything as Pokemon.
Joseph: Oh my gosh.
Taylor: Yep, hit with Nintendo DMCA. They got a DMCA an hour ago.
[Joseph and Taylor laugh]
Joseph: This game is already better than any Pokemon game that has ever existed.
[Taylor laughs] [Joseph chuckles]
Taylor: You know they're mad.
Joseph: Yeah, they're fucking pissed..
Taylor: That's why Nintendo's fucking done a DMCA immediately. Oh.
Joseph: Artists accuse it of copying 3D models. Pocket Pair claims it received death threats and abuse. The director of Steam's colossal breakout hit, Palworld, has responded to allegations of plagiarism. [dog barks in background]
Taylor: Charlie, uh-uh.
Joseph: As accusations mount that the game could have copied Pokemon designs.
[dog barking]
Taylor: Charlie, that's the mail lady. That's our friend. Thank you. Thank you very much.
[bleep]
Willie: Cause there was other stuff in that, in the Polygon article that was about plagiarism, but also animal cruelty. Like some people are upset by-
Joseph: Oh, like you can fuck up animals in the game.
Taylor: Yeah. Yeah.
Willie: How much you can like just [Taylor laughing] be neglectful of them and be a fucking terrible person to them and run them into the ground.
Joseph: Oh shit.
Taylor: That's the first thing I did when I started [Willie chuckles] because it was like, Hey, here you... here's some wood, an NPC tells me. Take this and make a weapon and I'm like, Oh shit weapon. I better, you know, shit's probably going to start attacking me. And so I make a club and the first, like I go down to some animals, it doesn't tell me anything to do. So I just assumed that the first thing I should do is whack on this animal with this club.
And, uh, so that's the first thing I did in the game was abuse an animal, a sheep, a little friendly sheep.
Joseph: Damn.
Taylor: I feel bad about it.
Joseph: You fucking demented creature.
Taylor: Yeah, I feel a little bad about it. But. But I would do it again.
[bleep]
Joseph: Siskel, is that, is that, what's his name? Thong song? Siskel?
Taylor: Thong song? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's him.
Willie: Sisqó.
Joseph: That was his name, right? Siskel?
Willie: Sisqó.
Joseph: Siskel. Siskel? Sisqó!
Willie: Sisqó.
Joseph: Sisqó, yeah.
Taylor: Sisqó. There you go. Close. Real close, Grandpa.
[bleep]
Willie: I didn't send it to you all the other day. Did you see the like Street Fighter post from Lies of P?
Taylor: No.
Joseph: This sounds vaguely familiar.
Willie: You should look it up. Let me, I'll find it if I can real quick.
Taylor: I feel like those words would pull it up. Uh, Lies of P x Street Fighter 6 collab incoming.
Willie: Yeah.
Joseph: Yeah, and why was it that people thought this was happening?
Willie: Because there's a picture that they posted.
Taylor: What?!
Joseph: Oh, with JP.
Taylor: Oh, and it's got fucking, uh.
Willie: I don't know what you're looking at, but.
Taylor: Wow, I'm looking at the picture. Krat Street Fighter is what I'm looking at. Is this, uh.
Joseph: Oh, they're playing the cabinet?
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: That's the original one right there. It's them playing the cabinet, Krat Street Fighter, and it's Venigni and Puppet, like, playing. And on the screen is Polendina and Venigni, I think, fighting against each other.
Taylor: Wow.
Joseph: Oh my gosh.
Willie: And it's like-
Joseph: Dude.
Willie: -what are they doing? Are they gonna, are they actually gonna be in Street Fighter?
Taylor: I'm calling a, yeah, I'm calling a guest, um, person.
Joseph: Yeah, if they put any puppet character in Street Fighter, that's gonna be fuckin the shit.
Taylor: Yeah, I bet they'll, I, I wouldn't doubt if it was....P.
Willie: Oh, that's Polendina and uh... What's Venigni's puppet? Why can't I think of it?
Joseph: Um, oh gosh. Uh-
Willie: Uh.
Taylor: That's fucking wild.
Joseph: Pache. Pachetta or ? Bruschetto. [laughing]
Willie: [laughing] I, I definitely wanted-
Joseph: Panchetta.
Willie: -some sort of food, for sure.
Taylor: [chuckling] Bru...bruschetta. [Joseph laughing]
Joseph: It's..., it starts with a P, I think. Um, pers...
Taylor: Man, that is super fucking interesting.
Joseph: Oh man.
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: Krat Street Fighter. Come the fuck on. That's ridiculous.
Joseph: Um, let's see if it comes out with Venigni Butler.
Taylor: They need to run that shit through Magnifique.
Joseph: [with Venigni's accent] Puccinella.
Taylor: [with Venigni's accent] Puccinello.
Joseph: [with Venigni's accent]Puccinella.
Taylor: Man, I'm glad we left the racist shit for after the podcast. [bleep]
Joseph: So I've wondered about this exact thing, too. Like, are we finally to the point where people are taking the like action more seriously, and they're only giving likes to the things that they truly like?
Or, is it the opposite? Where your just like, I'm not even fucking doing that and like, that's too much work now to fucking like a post.
Taylor: I think it's that dude. Well, and also, so one thing where, uh, I don't know how other platforms are, but I've just gotten more into the analytics of Twitter because that's my growth platform.
And I, the one thing I've realized is that there's all kinds of fucking punishment that you can get on Twitter. Like if you, if you go in and unhide posts that are like, if it says this post is hidden because it might be a shitty reply or unsavory or whatever. If you unfurl those and look at it, that is something you can be punished for, people get punished... oh, the fucking bubbles,
Joseph: Mm. really?
Taylor: People get punished for, [Willie chuckling] um, things like liking too many posts a day.
Joseph: Right, right, right.
Taylor: Which is wild because you're punished for, fucking using the platform, like you're literally doing the thing that the platform wants you to do, and then they're getting shut down for it. You can only send so many fucking DMS per day.
It's it's weird, man. They make some crazy fucking choices over there.
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: And so I think everybody-
Joseph: They just keep changing it, dude.
Taylor: -They keep changing it. I think everybody just sits on like a razor blade, on fucking pins and needles
Joseph: Mm-hmm.
Taylor: To me, a lot of my likes and whatever that I do interaction wise is based on like, is this a disgusting fucking image? I'm not going to fucking share this even though it's like AI art for a platform or whatever because I'm afraid I'm going to scare people off, uh, that only like more wholesome looking art or whatever, you know.
Like this is a fucking dude with a vagina or like the bleeple, liking anything by bleeple, dude. Yesterday had a giant crow or something. I don't even remember. Oh, it was Harambe. It was a giant Harambe and he had a massive fucking dick like-
Joseph: Really?!
Taylor: -coming, just out and laying on the ground. Exactly. And that was his fucking, the one a day or whatever.
Joseph: What?!
Taylor: And it's on Twitter.
Joseph: Are you serious?
Taylor: It's fucking just, you can go on there and see it. It's not fucking like hidden. It's not sensitive content. It's so like a club.
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: It's so fucking clubby and, and, uh, kleeshee- that I'm just like, this, this is fucking awful.
Joseph: Mm-hmm.
Taylor: Everybody is just basically ready at any moment to be permanently banned. Just be like, at any moment, this could fall through. I need to have three backup plans.
Like what kind of shitty life is that?
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: I'm getting to the point where I'm just tired of making content for it with like, you don't get any, you don't get the payback that you should, the payout that you should for the amount of work that you put into it and the amount of eggshells that you're walking on.
And, and it's funny because it claims to be like the big, uh, free speech, like come here for the real deal on the free speech. And it turns out like there's just as much shit ass garbage there as anywhere else, you know,
[bleep]
You've dialed in to Real Talk, and it's Joseph, Guillermo, and Taylores, laying down that smack that you love so much.
[bleep]
00:59:08
Taylor: Let's do it. I'm ready to dive in. Hopefully somebody's got some notes.
Willie: Yeah, I got some notes.
Taylor: Sweet. That's what I'm talking about.
Willie: It's too many, but also at the same time, I like, didn't take that many notes, cause it, it just didn't seem worth my time. [chuckles]
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: I felt that way up until halfway. Halfway through, I was like, I just had stopped taking notes. I was like, I'm just watching now, [Willie chuckles] and there's not-
Taylor: Yeah.
Joseph: -really anything that's jumping out. Rickedy-dickedy-doo. I did get that in my notes though, because that's fucking top of the notch shit.
Willie: I do have that on my notes too.
Joseph: Rickedy-dickedy-doo. He even does it with a country accent.
Willie: Yeah.
Taylor: Who said that?
Joseph: Fucking Castle.
Taylor: Oh, okay. Oh, man.
Willie: It's like one of the first things he says. It's, [Joseph chuckles] I think it might be the first thing that he says on that. No, no, no, it's not.
Joseph: It's like the second or third line.
Willie: It's not the first thing that he says, but it's close. The most ridiculous part of that is not that he says rickedy-dickedy-doo. It's that he says we had that shirt, [Joseph starts to laugh] on shirts back in 2010. [Joseph and Taylor laughing] It's like, what the fuck do you mean we had that on shirts?
Joseph: I also think that rickedy-dickedy-doo might have been just fucking improv by Michael C. Hall.
Taylor: That should be the name of the episode. [laughs] Rickedy-dickedy-doo. [Joseph laughs] The Saga of Gamer.
Joseph: Rickedy-dickedy-doo. Let's boogie woogie rock and roll.
Taylor: Rickedy-dickedy-doo. [bleep]
Yeah, that was a terrible movie. Now that we discussed it for an hour, I realize even more so.
[bleep]
Willie: My, my favorite part is Freak calling him Tilsman, Tilsman, yeah, Tilsman. Tilsman.
Taylor: Oh man. [Willie laughs]
Joseph: I fucking love that dude.
Taylor: You think that was, was that a direct pull from, uh, The Wire? Cause at the time, uh, "McNutty," like that was always the thing, was like mispronouncing the guy's name.
[bleep]
Joseph: I didn't talk about this-
Taylor: Charlie.
Joseph: -but there was a part where Kable gets the upgrades.
Willie: Mm, yeah, yeah.
Joseph: And guy comes and grabs him, and he's like,
Willie: Mm-hmm.
Joseph: Come on, hurry up. And then Freak is there, and he's like, Why won't you upgrade a brother, man? And then the response is [Willie chuckles] just like, Why don't you shut the fuck up?
[Joseph and Willie laugh]
Taylor: Yeah, ridiculous.
Joseph: Like, damn!
Willie: When I was writing about that scene, I did have a note for that one. I was like, Oh, I gotta remember this guy's fucking name.
Joseph: The other actor?
Willie: That guy's in all kinds of shit too.
Joseph: Yeah, he's in a lot of shit.
Willie: Noel G. He's always-
Taylor: Yeah.
Willie: -playing a fucking gangster or something.
Joseph: Yep. Yep.
Taylor: Yep, exactly.
Willie: I mean, obviously most well known for like, probably Training Day-
Joseph: Mm-hmm.
Willie: -because he's one of the guys in that.
Joseph: Yeah, for sure.
Willie: He's Moreno on, on his team.
Joseph: Gosh, what a great fucking, what a great fucking movie that I haven't seen in ages.
Taylor: Yep.
Willie: I haven't watched it in a while, but I do watch it every now and then. [chuckles]
Joseph: Yeah, so fucking good. Fucking also just peak Denzel.
Taylor: Oh dude, speaking of that, I watched um, I finally got to watch Equalizer 3. They added it to Netflix.
Willie: Aw man. Yeah, I've been meaning to.
Taylor: Pfft. Dude, they've got a formula on those fucking [Willie chuckles] things that is so good. They're like, we're gonna make you hate these people so much. And love Denzel so much, which you already do love him, but you're going to love him even more because of how he put... lays his napkin out.
Joseph: I think I saw the first one, but that's it.
Taylor: Oh, dude, they're so good. You can watch any of the three. And if you, if you enjoyed the first one, you will enjoy the other two. Like they have nailed that formula.
Joseph: I've been super hesitant. And I think it's why I haven't watched two and three, is it feels like, uh, man. I had a great fucking series to compare it to. It feels repetitive without actually watching them.
Taylor: Like Taken? With the same shit?
Joseph: Um, kind of?
Taylor: Because Taken is one of the same kinds where they have-
Joseph: Yeah.
Taylor: -a formula.
Joseph: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taylor: I don't like that one as much because I'm not as big of a Liam Neeson fan. Like, I like him in I like him in normal shit more than I like him in like action movies and stuff.
Joseph: Mm. Like um...
Taylor: I prefer to see him in like more of a non action.
Joseph: Like Love Actually?
Taylor: Or...Yeah, yeah, maybe. [Joseph chuckles] I guess.
[Willie chuckles]
Joseph: I do like him in Love Actually. I fucking love Liam Neeson, man. So the first Taken man? Shit, dude.
Taylor: Yeah, the first one's amazing.
Joseph: Yeah, it was fucking so good.
Taylor: But, you know, after that. And it's, John Wick is the same kind of thing.
Joseph: John Wicks are good. I haven't seen four.
Taylor: Yeah, they are good.
Willie: I still haven't seen four, yeah.
Joseph: But they're good.
Willie: I need to watch four.
Taylor: They are one of those things that no matter what the writing is or what's going on in it, like the action, the acting, all of it together, the scenes, the cinematography, all of it is so good that it doesn't even fucking matter.
Like, even if you're not into the story, you could just straight up watch that shit and have a good time and appreciate it.
Joseph: And I'm sure Denzel makes that fucking movie just like John Wick, just like Keanu Reeves-
Taylor: Oh yeah.
Joseph: -makes the whole fucking franchise, dude.
Taylor: Exactly, dude. Exactly. So I highly recommend, uh, watching two and three. I don't, I don't even remember two, but you could probably watch three without watching two.
Joseph: Mm.
Taylor: Continuity is almost fucking Taylor chuckles] non existent [Joseph laughs] and it's almost all different people. He's in a different country. Got to clean up the riff raff in Italy. You got to lay your napkin out.
Willie: Before I forget, Taylor, you definitely gotta watch that, uh, No Country for Sound guy-
Joseph: Mm.
Willie: -Kevin james video.
Taylor: Oh yeah. No, it's up, it's up, it's in my next tab.
Joseph: Yeah, those are fucking edited really well.
[bouncy 8-bit music plays]
Willie: Well, thanks for, uh, listening to another episode, being here with us through our first year. Hopefully there's many more to come, but we appreciate every single listen and whatever you do to podcasts, wherever you find them, make a comment, leave us a rating, whatever you do like that.
Joseph: Yeah, nobody does that though, so I dare you all to leave us a fucking rating.
[Outro theme begins to fade in - Caribbean Arcade by Christian Nanzell]
Willie: But if you, if you try, it would be cool. [Taylor and Willie chuckle] Just do something like that. I think our only comment that I've ever seen is from a friend of ours, uh, Ruben, when we first started. And that was before he even listened to an episode. He was like, I haven't even listened yet, but it's good.
Joseph: Oh, right, right. [Taylor laughs]
Willie: So he doesn't even, he doesn't even know. I bet that fool hasn't even listened.
Joseph: Probably never listened-
Willie: Yeah. [laughing]
Joseph: -to an episode after reviewing it.
Taylor: Good old Ruben. Yeah, he's a busy dude, but we appreciate that.
Willie: We do. You could go do that too. You could just trust us. It's good.
Joseph: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, thanks y'all.
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01:05:08
Joseph: Berries and Blades is an independent podcast created by Joseph Bullard, Willie Garza and Taylor Garratt. Thanks for tuning in, and consider subscribing if you enjoyed listening to this episode. You can also support us by telling your friends about the show, and we hope to see you in the next episode of Berries and Blades. Until then, thanks again.
[Outro theme fades out - Caribbean Arcade by Christian Nanzell]
Taylor: Thanks for listening. Keep shoving your games in the slots.
Joseph: In the slots where the sun doesn't shine.
Taylor: Yes, but where your air blows sometimes. [Willie chuckling] Keep blowing your slots.
Joseph: Keep don't going chasing water balls.
Taylor: Keep not chasing water balls, everyone.